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Craig S. Schwandt
Tue, Dec 6, 2022 8:34 PM

Hi,

It occurred to me that I should have reached back out to the list as the questions are not uncommon.

With highest regards,

Craig

Craig S. Schwandt, Ph.D. | Vice President & Director of Industrial Services
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From: Craig S. Schwandt
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Celine Martin cmartin@amnh.org
Subject: RE: Carbon Coater Advices

Hi Celine,

Depending on your budget a smaller unit like the JEOL unit might due.  https://www.mccrone.com/product/jeol-carbon-coater-ec-32010cc/
Our sales group in our instrument division, McCrone Microscope and Accessories can assist.  They also can tell you about the Cressington carbon coater, though they currently don't have a link on our website.
We use a Cressington carbon rod coater for instances were coating thickness is not critical.

For FESEM and TEM work, and any instances where coating thickness needs to be uniform and of known thickness nothing beats the ACE600.  Our analytical services group has two of these.  They work extremely well.  You can buy them with a carbon yarn evaporation head and a metal sputter head.  Both heads are installed, such that you can create recipes to coat with just one or create layered coatings, without removing the sample.

https://www.leica-microsystems.com/products/sample-preparation-for-electron-microscopy/p/leica-em-ace600/

With highest regards,

Craig

Craig S. Schwandt, Ph.D. | Vice President & Director of Industrial Services
[cid:image001.jpg@01D908B9.C78CDD90]
McCrone Associates, Inc. * 850 Pasquinelli Drive * Westmont, IL 60559
P. 630.887.7100 | F. 630.887.7417 | www.mccrone.comhttp://www.mccrone.com/
ISO/IEC 17025:2017 A2LA Accredited, Certificate #3631.01https://www.mccrone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/A2LA_Cert_3631-01.pdf * FDA/GDUFA/DEA Registeredhttps://www.mccrone.com/analytical-laboratory/quality-assurance/
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From: Celine Martin via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.orgmailto:msa-talk@minlists.org>
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 10:12 AM
To: msa-talk@minlists.orgmailto:msa-talk@minlists.org
Subject: [MSA-talk] Carbon Coater Advices

Dear Colleagues,

We currently have a Denton Vacuum Turbo Bench Top C coater at the AMNH, for which we encounter various problems: it is very inconsistent in its coating (sometimes it works directly, sometimes after 5 runs), and the piece holding the carbon rod is likely melting, getting an oval shape, and making the insertion of the rod impossible. We replaced the rod holder during the summer, and it's already oval.
Did any of you have similar issues? If yes, what did you do to fix them?

We are also considering buying a new device, as the coater is used daily. Any advice on C coater that can handle heavy usage?

Thanks for your help,
Celine

Celine Martin PhD
Research Scientist and Laboratory Manager
American Museum of Natural History
Central Park West at 79th Street
New York, NY 10024-5192, USA
Phone: (+1) 212 769 5380; Fax: (+1) 212 769 5533
Email: cmartin@amnh.orgmailto:cmartin@amnh.org

Hi, It occurred to me that I should have reached back out to the list as the questions are not uncommon. With highest regards, Craig Craig S. Schwandt, Ph.D. | Vice President & Director of Industrial Services [cid:image001.jpg@01D908B9.C78CDD90] McCrone Associates, Inc. * 850 Pasquinelli Drive * Westmont, IL 60559 P. 630.887.7100 | F. 630.887.7417 | www.mccrone.com<http://www.mccrone.com/> ISO/IEC 17025:2017 A2LA Accredited, Certificate #3631.01<https://www.mccrone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/A2LA_Cert_3631-01.pdf> * FDA/GDUFA/DEA Registered<https://www.mccrone.com/analytical-laboratory/quality-assurance/> This email and any files attached may contain information that is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited without our permission. From: Craig S. Schwandt Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 3:03 PM To: Celine Martin <cmartin@amnh.org> Subject: RE: Carbon Coater Advices Hi Celine, Depending on your budget a smaller unit like the JEOL unit might due. https://www.mccrone.com/product/jeol-carbon-coater-ec-32010cc/ Our sales group in our instrument division, McCrone Microscope and Accessories can assist. They also can tell you about the Cressington carbon coater, though they currently don't have a link on our website. We use a Cressington carbon rod coater for instances were coating thickness is not critical. For FESEM and TEM work, and any instances where coating thickness needs to be uniform and of known thickness nothing beats the ACE600. Our analytical services group has two of these. They work extremely well. You can buy them with a carbon yarn evaporation head and a metal sputter head. Both heads are installed, such that you can create recipes to coat with just one or create layered coatings, without removing the sample. https://www.leica-microsystems.com/products/sample-preparation-for-electron-microscopy/p/leica-em-ace600/ With highest regards, Craig Craig S. Schwandt, Ph.D. | Vice President & Director of Industrial Services [cid:image001.jpg@01D908B9.C78CDD90] McCrone Associates, Inc. * 850 Pasquinelli Drive * Westmont, IL 60559 P. 630.887.7100 | F. 630.887.7417 | www.mccrone.com<http://www.mccrone.com/> ISO/IEC 17025:2017 A2LA Accredited, Certificate #3631.01<https://www.mccrone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/A2LA_Cert_3631-01.pdf> * FDA/GDUFA/DEA Registered<https://www.mccrone.com/analytical-laboratory/quality-assurance/> This email and any files attached may contain information that is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited without our permission. From: Celine Martin via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.org<mailto:msa-talk@minlists.org>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 10:12 AM To: msa-talk@minlists.org<mailto:msa-talk@minlists.org> Subject: [MSA-talk] Carbon Coater Advices Dear Colleagues, We currently have a Denton Vacuum Turbo Bench Top C coater at the AMNH, for which we encounter various problems: it is very inconsistent in its coating (sometimes it works directly, sometimes after 5 runs), and the piece holding the carbon rod is likely melting, getting an oval shape, and making the insertion of the rod impossible. We replaced the rod holder during the summer, and it's already oval. Did any of you have similar issues? If yes, what did you do to fix them? We are also considering buying a new device, as the coater is used daily. Any advice on C coater that can handle heavy usage? Thanks for your help, Celine Celine Martin PhD Research Scientist and Laboratory Manager American Museum of Natural History Central Park West at 79th Street New York, NY 10024-5192, USA Phone: (+1) 212 769 5380; Fax: (+1) 212 769 5533 Email: cmartin@amnh.org<mailto:cmartin@amnh.org>