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Emily First
Tue, Sep 9, 2025 4:03 AM

Hello MSA list!

I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity
https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html
using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't
find access to a color version of the article. Does anyone have a
high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be
willing to share?

Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian
Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224.

Thanks to anyone who can help!
Emily
.....................................
Dr. Emily First (she/her)
Assistant Professor of Geology
Macalester College

Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA
(651) 696-6415
website https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/ |
efirst@macalester.edu

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Hello MSA list! I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity <https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html> using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't find access to a *color* version of the article. Does anyone have a high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be willing to share? Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224. Thanks to anyone who can help! Emily *.....................................* *Dr. Emily First (she/her)* Assistant Professor of Geology Macalester College Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA (651) 696-6415 website <https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/> | efirst@macalester.edu *Our work hours may differ! No action or response is expected outside of your own work hours.*
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Peter Tice
Wed, Sep 10, 2025 4:51 PM

Hello, Emily,

I have found color versions of Brisse's diagrams in this place:

https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/files/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/Perkins2_Revised_JBF.v3.pdf

I hope that you find this source helpful.

Best,
Peter Tice
Woodsville High School
Woodsville, New Hampshire

On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:24 PM Emily First via MSA-talk <
msa-talk@minlists.org> wrote:

Hello MSA list!

I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity
https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html
using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't
find access to a color version of the article. Does anyone have a
high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be
willing to share?

Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The
Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224.

Thanks to anyone who can help!
Emily
.....................................
Dr. Emily First (she/her)
Assistant Professor of Geology
Macalester College

Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA
(651) 696-6415
website https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/ |
efirst@macalester.edu

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Hello, Emily, I have found color versions of Brisse's diagrams in this place: https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/files/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/Perkins2_Revised_JBF.v3.pdf I hope that you find this source helpful. Best, Peter Tice Woodsville High School Woodsville, New Hampshire On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:24 PM Emily First via MSA-talk < msa-talk@minlists.org> wrote: > Hello MSA list! > > I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity > <https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html> > using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't > find access to a *color* version of the article. Does anyone have a > high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be > willing to share? > > Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The > Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224. > > Thanks to anyone who can help! > Emily > *.....................................* > *Dr. Emily First (she/her)* > Assistant Professor of Geology > Macalester College > > Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA > (651) 696-6415 > website <https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/> | > efirst@macalester.edu > > *Our work hours may differ! No action or response is expected outside of > your own work hours.* > _______________________________________________ > MSA-talk mailing list -- msa-talk@minlists.org > To unsubscribe send an email to msa-talk-leave@minlists.org >
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Hamelin, Clem
Wed, Sep 10, 2025 5:13 PM

Hi Emily,

John Brady (Smith College) has some higher-resolution color versions of Brisse’s diagrams on his course website for minerals - this should take you straight to the PDF with the patterns (scroll down to slide 49): https://www.science.smith.edu/geosciences/min_jb/Lecture_Slides/Crystallography.pdf
Enjoy!

Cheers,
Clem


Clémentine (Clem) Hamelin (she/her)
Assistant Professor, Geology
William & Mary

McGlothlin-Street Hall 214
251 Jamestown Rd
Williamsburg, VA 23185
Email: chamelin@wm.edumailto:chamelin@wm.edu
Website: http://http://clementinehamelin.com/wmsolidearth.pages.wm.edu

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To: Emily First efirst@macalester.edu
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Hello, Emily,

I have found color versions of Brisse's diagrams in this place:

https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/files/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/Perkins2_Revised_JBF.v3.pdf

I hope that you find this source helpful.

Best,
Peter Tice
Woodsville High School
Woodsville, New Hampshire

On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:24 PM Emily First via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.orgmailto:msa-talk@minlists.org> wrote:
Hello MSA list!

I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activityhttps://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't find access to a color version of the article. Does anyone have a high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be willing to share?

Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224.

Thanks to anyone who can help!
Emily
.....................................
Dr. Emily First (she/her)
Assistant Professor of Geology
Macalester College

Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA

(651) 696-6415
websitehttps://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/ | efirst@macalester.edumailto:efirst@macalester.edu
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Hi Emily, John Brady (Smith College) has some higher-resolution color versions of Brisse’s diagrams on his course website for minerals - this should take you straight to the PDF with the patterns (scroll down to slide 49): https://www.science.smith.edu/geosciences/min_jb/Lecture_Slides/Crystallography.pdf Enjoy! Cheers, Clem --- Clémentine (Clem) Hamelin (she/her) Assistant Professor, Geology William & Mary McGlothlin-Street Hall 214 251 Jamestown Rd Williamsburg, VA 23185 Email: chamelin@wm.edu<mailto:chamelin@wm.edu> Website: http://<http://clementinehamelin.com/>wmsolidearth.pages.wm.edu From: Peter Tice via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 at 1:07 PM To: Emily First <efirst@macalester.edu> Cc: msa-talk@minlists.org <msa-talk@minlists.org> Subject: [MSA-talk] Re: Color copy of Brisse 1981 symmetry article? Hello, Emily, I have found color versions of Brisse's diagrams in this place: https://cdn.serc.carleton.edu/files/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/Perkins2_Revised_JBF.v3.pdf I hope that you find this source helpful. Best, Peter Tice Woodsville High School Woodsville, New Hampshire On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 12:24 PM Emily First via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.org<mailto:msa-talk@minlists.org>> wrote: Hello MSA list! I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity<https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html> using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't find access to a *color* version of the article. Does anyone have a high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be willing to share? Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224. Thanks to anyone who can help! Emily ..................................... Dr. Emily First (she/her) Assistant Professor of Geology Macalester College Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA (651) 696-6415 website<https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/> | efirst@macalester.edu<mailto:efirst@macalester.edu> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xgoQzXQmZ5AUjinj0kNydIsNzqSmVnjTQJ_my55Kw_DnUdPVkE_yv-S07LHLbpF9PrTWJ_xFY] Our work hours may differ! No action or response is expected outside of your own work hours. _______________________________________________ MSA-talk mailing list -- msa-talk@minlists.org<mailto:msa-talk@minlists.org> To unsubscribe send an email to msa-talk-leave@minlists.org<mailto:msa-talk-leave@minlists.org>
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Mogk, David
Wed, Sep 10, 2025 5:53 PM

Hi Emily,

For symmetry in color prints, you might also want to access Peter Buseck’s From 2D to 3D: Escher Drawings - Crystallography, Crystal Chemistry, and Crystal "Defects" which uses a series of Escher prints.  PDFs of the prints from the original 1996 Teaching Mineralogy workbook are posted at this site:
https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/25651.html

Years ago I was able to purchase most of these prints as sheets of wrapping paper from the Smithsonian Institute National Gallery of Art store.  I laminated these and used these as an introduction to 2D symmetry for years.  Unfortunately, I didn’t see these listed in the inventory at the National Gallery online store today. However, I did find some of the prints Peter uses such as Butterflies, Fish, on Etsy, but these are only as 8.5 x 11 sheets and may not be large enough to show the overall 2D lattices. Still, try searching Etsy for Escher and the sheet names, e.g.,, https://www.etsy.com/listing/1836027287/mc-escher-fish-design-paper-art-deco?ls=r&external=1&rec_type=ss&ref=pla_similar_listing_top-8&content_source=422c52ea537d06047b1e46867676b234%253Ac55bd812075739dcc4f1b0a5591f57e9972c2049&logging_key=422c52ea537d06047b1e46867676b234%3Ac55bd812075739dcc4f1b0a5591f57e9972c2049

Have fun with these,
Dave Mogk
Professor of Geology (emeritus)
Dept. Earth Sciences
Montana State University

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Hello MSA list!

I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activityhttps://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't find access to a color version of the article. Does anyone have a high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be willing to share?

Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224.

Thanks to anyone who can help!
Emily
.....................................
Dr. Emily First (she/her)
Assistant Professor of Geology
Macalester College

Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA
(651) 696-6415
websitehttps://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/ | efirst@macalester.edumailto:efirst@macalester.edu
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Hi Emily, For symmetry in color prints, you might also want to access Peter Buseck’s From 2D to 3D: Escher Drawings - Crystallography, Crystal Chemistry, and Crystal "Defects" which uses a series of Escher prints. PDFs of the prints from the original 1996 Teaching Mineralogy workbook are posted at this site: https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/25651.html Years ago I was able to purchase most of these prints as sheets of wrapping paper from the Smithsonian Institute National Gallery of Art store. I laminated these and used these as an introduction to 2D symmetry for years. Unfortunately, I didn’t see these listed in the inventory at the National Gallery online store today. However, I did find some of the prints Peter uses such as Butterflies, Fish, on Etsy, but these are only as 8.5 x 11 sheets and may not be large enough to show the overall 2D lattices. Still, try searching Etsy for Escher and the sheet names, e.g.,, https://www.etsy.com/listing/1836027287/mc-escher-fish-design-paper-art-deco?ls=r&external=1&rec_type=ss&ref=pla_similar_listing_top-8&content_source=422c52ea537d06047b1e46867676b234%253Ac55bd812075739dcc4f1b0a5591f57e9972c2049&logging_key=422c52ea537d06047b1e46867676b234%3Ac55bd812075739dcc4f1b0a5591f57e9972c2049 Have fun with these, Dave Mogk Professor of Geology (emeritus) Dept. Earth Sciences Montana State University From: Emily First via MSA-talk <msa-talk@minlists.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2025 at 10:20 AM To: msa-talk@minlists.org <msa-talk@minlists.org> Subject: [MSA-talk] Color copy of Brisse 1981 symmetry article? **External Sender** Hello MSA list! I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity<https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html> using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't find access to a *color* version of the article. Does anyone have a high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be willing to share? Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224. Thanks to anyone who can help! Emily ..................................... Dr. Emily First (she/her) Assistant Professor of Geology Macalester College Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA (651) 696-6415 website<https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/> | efirst@macalester.edu<mailto:efirst@macalester.edu> [Image removed by sender.] Our work hours may differ! No action or response is expected outside of your own work hours.
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Jim Evans
Wed, Sep 10, 2025 11:19 PM

Hi Emily,

After some searching I found I did have a colour pdf of Brisse 1981. Here's
also a slightly cleaned up version of the wallpaper patterns, which I'll
put in a google drive link since its' about 15 Mb:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tw_gJZZHG-HGiNgQYuUF_OEqOuOc49Xm/view?usp=sharing

Cheers,

Jim Evans

On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:24 AM Emily First via MSA-talk <
msa-talk@minlists.org> wrote:

Hello MSA list!

I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity
https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html
using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't
find access to a color version of the article. Does anyone have a
high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be
willing to share?

Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The
Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224.

Thanks to anyone who can help!
Emily
.....................................
Dr. Emily First (she/her)
Assistant Professor of Geology
Macalester College

Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA
(651) 696-6415
website https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/ |
efirst@macalester.edu

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Hi Emily, After some searching I found I did have a colour pdf of Brisse 1981. Here's also a slightly cleaned up version of the wallpaper patterns, which I'll put in a google drive link since its' about 15 Mb: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tw_gJZZHG-HGiNgQYuUF_OEqOuOc49Xm/view?usp=sharing Cheers, Jim Evans On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:24 AM Emily First via MSA-talk < msa-talk@minlists.org> wrote: > Hello MSA list! > > I am hoping to make use of Dexter Perkins' symmetry activity > <https://serc.carleton.edu/NAGTWorkshops/mineralogy/activities/lattice_spacegroup.html> > using patterns by Francois Brisse, in my Mineralogy class. However, I can't > find access to a *color* version of the article. Does anyone have a > high-quality, color PDF of this Canadian Mineralogist article they would be > willing to share? > > Brisse, F. (1981) “La symetrie bidimensionnelle et le Canada,” The > Canadian Mineralogist, 19, pp. 217–224. > > Thanks to anyone who can help! > Emily > *.....................................* > *Dr. Emily First (she/her)* > Assistant Professor of Geology > Macalester College > > Saint Paul, MN 55105 USA > (651) 696-6415 > website <https://www.macalester.edu/geology/facultystaff/emily-first/> | > efirst@macalester.edu > > *Our work hours may differ! No action or response is expected outside of > your own work hours.* > _______________________________________________ > MSA-talk mailing list -- msa-talk@minlists.org > To unsubscribe send an email to msa-talk-leave@minlists.org > -- R. James Evans Research Associate, Department of Earth, Ocean & Atmospheric Sciences, University of British Columbia Email: rjamesevans@gmail.com